[*BCM*] tunnel etc.

[Lucas Brunelle]

the size of my dick depends on the size of the fine - guess we'll find out
next ride

lucky
ride safe - ride fast

-----Original Message-----
From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of
Snake Pliskin
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 12:16
To: list at bostoncriticalmass.org
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] tunnel etc.



I don't see your main point here, and so far your function on this list
has been to be contrary without proof and to insult people.  What's your
objective in all these inflamitory postings?  You're speading just as much
disinformation as anyone else.  You admitted earlier that you aren't
familiar with the sign enough to know the fine, and with 3 differing
amounts from 3 people, it's difficult to think that anyone is.  If you
care that much about being able to ride in your little tunnel, why not
just ask someone who knows?  That's so much easier than trying to prove
dick size on the internet.





On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 contraelolvido at riseup.net wrote:

> > I don't understand why he doesn't think going through the tunnel is
> > illegal.
> > If we are riding on the street, we are considered a legal vehicle.  
>Bound
> > by
> > all the constraints of a motorcycle, car, bus, etc.
>
>This is not true at all, and only goes to show how little you know of the
>law. Are bike's required to follow minimum speed limits (i believe 20
>below maximum)? Do bike's have to be register, or inspected, or licensed?
>Are bike's allowed to pass on the left or the right? I could go on.
>
>Bike's have to follow *some, but not all* equivalent, not equal, rules to
>other vehicles. The tunnel's sign prohibits motor vehicles and pedestrians
>(i believe), which are both strict legal categories under which bikes
>don't fall.
>
>Furthermore even if bikes were applicable, it isn't a crime nor an
>arrestable offense. It's a traffic violation (like a speeding ticket). The
>police had no authority to arrest bikers in traffic stops (even if you
>refused to ID yourself) as of last year-ish (making the traffic ticket
>unenforceable). Now they do, thanks to massbike - looking out for us.
>
> > Now going through the tunnel is a a different story.  If the cops got
> > organized to come down on CM, they would know that we were going to end 
>up
> > there at some point every month.
>
>Or if the cops got organized in brookline/boston/cambridge they could
>arrest the mass on the massave bridge/copley sq/harvard st. Do you really
>think that cambridge police are going to have the dozens of officers
>required for mass arrest sitting around waiting by the tunnel (hidden from
>view of course) for three or four hours every month on the chance that the
>mass *might* come by (they'd have to be waiting since we go through so
>fast). Then, on top of that, does cambridge have the capacity to arrest
>3/400 bikers at once, which put a huge strain even on New York friggin
>City's police? Especially when they know that the arrests won't be upheld?
>Come on, grow up.
>
> > He says that the police have no right to arrest us (true), and that the
> > cops
> > don't have the power to arrest us (false).  That's just naive.  Cops can
> > take you downtown anytime they want (New York CM).
>
>Ya and how many of those arrests were sustained? If your logic is that
>they can arrest you at any point for any reason then I agree with you,
>cops have unwieldy power and often abuse it. But If you're going to use
>that as excuse not to do something you have every legal right to do
>(without getting arrested at least), then I disagree with you. A cop
>*could* arrest you for any number of biking activities that they don't
>understand or piss them off.
>
> > Prognosis: Internet lurker that just likes to stir things up
> > Diagnosis: Another filter on my spam blocker.
>
>Which would make sense if I started this conversation... And I assume that
>your response to people disagreeing with you is to block them? It must be
>lonely, lonely, ignorant life you live. It could also explain why, after
>dozens of conversations on this list, you still don't understand how the
>mass laws effecting bikes work.
>
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