[*BCM*] A fine point
rob levy
r.p.levy at gmail.com
Wed Jan 4 13:29:50 EST 2006
Off-topic, I know, but anarchist politics are necessarily leftist.
Leftist indicates a moral background of improving society and helping
others whereas rightist indicates rule based on strict adherence the
law, the "one true way", or the "nation"'s way (viewed as moral) with
little regard for compassion or empathy.
On 1/4/06, Dan Zarrella <zan at stargeek.com> wrote:
> lefty?
> I think we are discussing anarchist politics present in CM, certainly not
> Left-ist politics.
>
> On 1/4/06, Jack Zarkauskas < jack.zarkauskas at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Based on the newpaper write-up I had originally thought joining the bike
> rides in Boston would be a fun, social activity. I'm glad I have seen all
> these e-mails. I didn't realize I would be joining a "movement" and that the
> group I wanted to enjoy riding with has to be seen as "lefty".
> >
> > If anyone has information on other riding groups that aren't as
> politically charged. could you please forward? Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/4/06, Pete Stidman <pstidman at yahoo.com > wrote:
> > > I see your point in asking it but the example you
> > > chose for it is a bit out there. A neo-con would of
> > > course be driving a car in order to support american
> > > industry and oil interests. Show me one neo-con that
> > > commutes on a bike.
> > >
> > > There are politics here that can't be denied. Not to
> > > say we should place anylimit on who can and can't
> > > participate, but that the question is almost
> > > irrelevant. CM is an urban movement, which means it's
> > > got to be lefty to be worth a damn, on top of that it
> > > uses an anarchist principle of organizing which ties
> > > it to radicals, or at least people who are willing to
> > > go against the grain.
> > >
> > > I think it would be possible to try and popularize the
> > > thing to more people and all but you'd have to be
> > > aware of all the political baggage. Everything's
> > > political really.
> > >
> > > -Pete
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Dan Zarrella <zan at stargeek.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm curious what everyone thinks about the poltical
> > > > nature of CM?
> > > > Can CM exist apolitically? Or is this form of bike
> > > > activism inextricably
> > > > tied to certain "political" leanings?
> > > > would a Neo-Con be welcome on the ride?
> > > > -Dan
> > > >
> > > > On 1/3/06, Jason Orach < jorach at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan Zarella wrote:
> > > > > "just as I (perhaps we?) critize the choice
> > > > between wage slavery and
> > > > > starvation as no choice at all,"
> > > > >
> > > > > This isn't a criticism of your beliefs Dan, but
> > > > one of the big turn
> > > > > offs for me about CM is the constant crusade
> > > > against "the machine" and
> > > > > the constant stream of anarchist politics in the
> > > > ride, I know a lot of
> > > > > people feel the same. It alienates a lot of people
> > > > who aren't
> > > > > concerned about bringing down the system, but who
> > > > just want to be able
> > > > > to ride their bikes in peace on the streets.
> > > > >
> > > > > Let's work together to promote bikes, and leave
> > > > our political agendas
> > > > > at the bike rack.
> > > > >
> > > > > - Jason Orach
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