[*BCM*] Boston PD no friend of a cyclist

[Robotica]

see, the difference is that i'm *paying* the cop to protect me against
jerks like that driver.  i don't like the way the driver behaved, but
at least i'm not paying him to be a nice guy.

-m

On 6/28/06, Corinna Baksik <cbaksik at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's interesting how there appears to be more anger directed at the
> police officer than at the driver who caused the incident in the first
> place.
>
> I have always felt that calling a policeman by the term bandied out on
> this list is as offensive as using racial slurs. For every jerk cop,
> there are also cops actually helping people, risking their lives, and
> some dying in the course of duty. Just as for every asshole cyclist,
> there are those of us who try not to be jerks - who yield when
> appropriate and who stop for pedestrians.
>
> corinna
>
>
> On 6/27/06, Pete Stidman <pstidman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I just wrote to Jon off list. And since then I got madder.
> >
> > I'm really as pissed off as I possibly can be that anyone would even suggest
> > that using any words would negate this cops total belligerence.
> >
> > LET"S NOT FORGET THAT PEOPLE GET KILLED OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Need I say fucking more? I just got another fucking bike/car death notice
> > today from out of town. And I'm tired of people wimping out and not
> > following through when ANY opportunity for changing the climate on the roads
> > out there presents itself.
> >
> > That guy turned himself into a fucking pig when he ignored a situation that
> > could've killed somebody.
> >
> > Jon was right to call him that. Anybody with any sense would have made the
> > same deduction. A cop is not above reproach!
> >
> > Call who needs to be called, call me if they ignore you. Do I need to send
> > you a list of the names of the dead just in this city alone? huh? wake the
> > fuck up! WE HAVE A RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE ON THE STREETS!!!!
> >
> > -Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ian Westcott <criticalmass at ianw.org> wrote:
> >  Jon,
> >
> > I agree with Jym and Robotica. While your words could have been chosen more
> > carefully, the officer was in the wrong in the first place by not treating
> > you with respect and concern for your situation. I think your idea to bring
> > a group of people with you tomorrow morning could easily be misconstrued and
> > get out of hand, and I would advise against it. But by all means, call the
> > precinct, write to the Globe, and make sure people know about what
> > happened.� (Maybe just replace the words "fucking pig" with "<expletive
> > deleted>").
> >
> > � -Ian
> >
> >
> > On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Jon Ramos wrote:
> >
> > A thought,
> > �
> > Would anyone like to meet at the location tomorrow morning?� I should take
> > the higher road and give him an apology... and ask for one in return.� I am
> > looking for a civil confrontation only,�NOT fuel on the fire.
> > �
> > I would like to have a show of support from the bike community so that he
> > can see that his actions affect many of us.� Anyone with me?� He is there at
> > 8:00 am directing traffic at the intersection at Summer St and Purchase St
> > in downtown.
> > �
> > Since my language to the officer will prevent my complaint from being heard,
> > this would be a good way to get through to at least one person.�
> > �
> > let me know if you are interested.
> > - Jon
> >
> > Jon Ramos <jontramos at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > d.
> > �
> > I agree, my choice of words was indeed so poor that it is likely that my
> > story wouldn't be taken seriously.� I was acting like an asshole just as
> > much as the cop... or almost as much.� Looking back, I shouldn't have said
> > all that and I can only blame myself.� At the moment I was sooo angry I just
> > lost it.� I am not usually one who gets that infuriated but even now (5
> > hours later I am still heated).
> > �
> > I mostly wanted to share with the BCM list as a means to vent out, and I
> > suppose to give warning.
> > �
> > - Jon
> >
> > One thing I did forget to mention that further annoyed me... When the cop
> > was moaning about how tough his job is, and that I should file to become a
> > cop if I thought I could do better.� I said that I didn't want to be a cop,
> > which is why I am not a cop, and that if I were to be a public servant I
> > would be a fire fighter. (yes this is off the point, but it�did get said)�
> > His reply�was something to�the effect of:�fire figerters are lazy and just
> > sit around the station all day, and that their job is easy.� This just
> > pissed me off because I have good friends that are fire fighters and their
> > jobs are not easy.� I only bring this up because I have a lot of respect for
> > fire fighters.
> >
> >
> > Dan Barrett <dbx at pobox.com> wrote:
> > > I suggest filing the report and then calling the Mayor's office of
> > > Neighborhood services to follow up. The Mayor is the only way to get a
> > > thing done in this town, but you have to go through the regular rigamorale
> > > to get there. I would also call the police captain for that police
> > > district personally.
> >
> >
> > Did I read Jon's account incorrectly, or did he call the cop a "fucking
> > pig?" If he really did, I wouldn't bother following up with anything; the
> > entire episode is tainted by his choice of words.
> >
> > d.
> >
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