[*BCM*] Boston PD no friend of a cyclist

Anne Wolfe axw at michelmores.com
Wed Jun 28 10:16:52 EDT 2006 

You aren't paying the cop to be a nice guy either.  You're just paying
him to protect you.  Then again, mileage on that front varies as well. 

-----Original Message-----
From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
[mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org] On Behalf Of
Robotica
Sent: 28 June 2006 15:02
To: Boston Critical Mass
Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Boston PD no friend of a cyclist

see, the difference is that i'm *paying* the cop to protect me against
jerks like that driver.  i don't like the way the driver behaved, but at
least i'm not paying him to be a nice guy.

-m

On 6/28/06, Corinna Baksik <cbaksik at gmail.com> wrote:
> It's interesting how there appears to be more anger directed at the 
> police officer than at the driver who caused the incident in the first

> place.
>
> I have always felt that calling a policeman by the term bandied out on

> this list is as offensive as using racial slurs. For every jerk cop, 
> there are also cops actually helping people, risking their lives, and 
> some dying in the course of duty. Just as for every asshole cyclist, 
> there are those of us who try not to be jerks - who yield when 
> appropriate and who stop for pedestrians.
>
> corinna
>
>
> On 6/27/06, Pete Stidman <pstidman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I just wrote to Jon off list. And since then I got madder.
> >
> > I'm really as pissed off as I possibly can be that anyone would even

> > suggest that using any words would negate this cops total
belligerence.
> >
> > LET"S NOT FORGET THAT PEOPLE GET KILLED OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Need I say fucking more? I just got another fucking bike/car death 
> > notice today from out of town. And I'm tired of people wimping out 
> > and not following through when ANY opportunity for changing the 
> > climate on the roads out there presents itself.
> >
> > That guy turned himself into a fucking pig when he ignored a 
> > situation that could've killed somebody.
> >
> > Jon was right to call him that. Anybody with any sense would have 
> > made the same deduction. A cop is not above reproach!
> >
> > Call who needs to be called, call me if they ignore you. Do I need 
> > to send you a list of the names of the dead just in this city alone?

> > huh? wake the fuck up! WE HAVE A RIGHT TO FEEL SAFE ON THE
STREETS!!!!
> >
> > -Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ian Westcott <criticalmass at ianw.org> wrote:
> >  Jon,
> >
> > I agree with Jym and Robotica. While your words could have been 
> > chosen more carefully, the officer was in the wrong in the first 
> > place by not treating you with respect and concern for your 
> > situation. I think your idea to bring a group of people with you 
> > tomorrow morning could easily be misconstrued and get out of hand, 
> > and I would advise against it. But by all means, call the precinct, 
> > write to the Globe, and make sure people know about what happened.  
> > (Maybe just replace the words "fucking pig" with "<expletive
> > deleted>").
> >
> >   -Ian
> >
> >
> > On Jun 27, 2006, at 1:25 PM, Jon Ramos wrote:
> >
> > A thought,
> >  
> > Would anyone like to meet at the location tomorrow morning?  I 
> > should take the higher road and give him an apology... and ask for 
> > one in return.  I am looking for a civil confrontation only, NOT
fuel on the fire.
> >  
> > I would like to have a show of support from the bike community so 
> > that he can see that his actions affect many of us.  Anyone with 
> > me?  He is there at 8:00 am directing traffic at the intersection at

> > Summer St and Purchase St in downtown.
> >  
> > Since my language to the officer will prevent my complaint from 
> > being heard, this would be a good way to get through to at least one

> > person.    let me know if you are interested.
> > - Jon
> >
> > Jon Ramos <jontramos at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > d.
> >  
> > I agree, my choice of words was indeed so poor that it is likely 
> > that my story wouldn't be taken seriously.  I was acting like an 
> > asshole just as much as the cop... or almost as much.  Looking back,

> > I shouldn't have said all that and I can only blame myself.  At the 
> > moment I was sooo angry I just lost it.  I am not usually one who 
> > gets that infuriated but even now (5 hours later I am still heated).
> >  
> > I mostly wanted to share with the BCM list as a means to vent out, 
> > and I suppose to give warning.
> >  
> > - Jon
> >
> > One thing I did forget to mention that further annoyed me... When 
> > the cop was moaning about how tough his job is, and that I should 
> > file to become a cop if I thought I could do better.  I said that I 
> > didn't want to be a cop, which is why I am not a cop, and that if I 
> > were to be a public servant I would be a fire fighter. (yes this is 
> > off the point, but it did get said)  His reply was something to the 
> > effect of: fire figerters are lazy and just sit around the station 
> > all day, and that their job is easy.  This just pissed me off 
> > because I have good friends that are fire fighters and their jobs 
> > are not easy.  I only bring this up because I have a lot of respect
for fire fighters.
> >
> >
> > Dan Barrett <dbx at pobox.com> wrote:
> > > I suggest filing the report and then calling the Mayor's office of

> > > Neighborhood services to follow up. The Mayor is the only way to 
> > > get a thing done in this town, but you have to go through the 
> > > regular rigamorale to get there. I would also call the police 
> > > captain for that police district personally.
> >
> >
> > Did I read Jon's account incorrectly, or did he call the cop a 
> > "fucking pig?" If he really did, I wouldn't bother following up with

> > anything; the entire episode is tainted by his choice of words.
> >
> > d.
> >
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