[*BCM*] Massachusetts Bicycle

[turtle]

I'll also note that the Google "MassBike" list (previously on Topica) is
not affiliated with MassBike the organization.  It's always been
promoted on the MassBike website, but it in no longer.   Just to be
confusing there is also a bulletin board on the MassBike website.

But the only absolutely official Massachusetts Bicycle Coalition posts
on any of these public lists are made by people with @MassBike.org in
their email address.  Anything else is personal opinion.

Is everyone thoroughly confused now?

-Turtle


gh at bu.edu,
	Boston Critical Mass <list at bostoncriticalmass.org> wrote:
> 
> yes, I was confusing the two, sorry.
> 
> I stand by my rant about the "massbike" email list, however.  :-)
> 
> 
> greg
> 
> 
> On 6/28/06, David Watson <david at massbike.org> wrote:
> > Just to be clear, MassBike as an email list for announcements only -- that's
> > what I was suggesting people sign up for at http://massbike.org/gather/.
> > MassBike also has separate Google Groups listservs for discussions.  So you
> > can get the newsletters without seeing the discussions.
> >
> > -David
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org
> > [mailto:bostoncriticalmass-bounces at bostoncriticalmass.org]On Behalf Of
> > Greg Howard
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 11:48 AM
> > To: Boston Critical Mass
> > Subject: Re: [*BCM*] Massachusetts Bicycle
> >
> >
> > > I'm saying they should have their own list (which they might have) and not
> > > clog up this list with their stuff.
> >
> > I completely disagree.  Occasional notices and newsletters are fine
> > and don't substantially affect my email bandwidth; and I would like to
> > stay on top of as much local bike info as I can.  A couple emails a
> > month is no big deal, and it's good to keep us all apprised.
> >
> > (massbike email list aside: I finally gave up on the massbike list
> > because of the frequent and unpleasant arguments -- of a sort we have
> > seen on this list in the last 24 hours.  The list had become a forum
> > for perennial debate and no apparent progress was ever made.  I think
> > MB does itself a real disservice by allowing a few people, especially
> > people who are or were board members, to dominate a list named after
> > the organization, giving the impression that the organization itself
> > is as crotchety and impotent as the list discussions are.  indeed,
> > this is why I have not been involved with MB at all, despite many
> > years of passionate involvement with other bike organizations.)
> >
> >
> > greg
> >
> >
> > On 6/28/06, Ian Thistle <idiotkid at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm saying they should have their own list (which they might have) and not
> > > clog up this list with their stuff.  So, y'know, people don't assume that
> > CM
> > > and MassBike are one and the same.  And people who are interested in
> > > MassBike can join their list.  Pretty simple.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/28/06, turtle <turtle at zworg.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Boston Critical Mass <list at bostoncriticalmass.org > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > ------=_Part_12888_20630061.1151511648276
> > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> > > > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > > > > Content-Disposition: inline
> > > > >
> > > > > It has long bothered me that Mass Bike posts their monthly
> > announcements
> > > to
> > > > > this list which is in no way affiliated with MassBike (and in fact,
> > many
> > > > > CMers dislike MassBike).
> > > >
> > > > So you think MassBike should be elitist and not talk to us?  Or are you
> > > > thinking that we should be elistist and not listen to them?  And do you
> > > > realize that some of us are some of them as well?
> > > >
> > > > -Turtle
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------
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> > > > seek, but that it is a means by which we arrive at that goal.  We must
> > > > pursue peaceful ends through peaceful means." - Martin Luther King Jr.
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"One day we must come to see that peace is not merely a distant goal we
seek, but that it is a means by which we arrive at that goal.  We must
pursue peaceful ends through peaceful means." - Martin Luther King Jr.