[*BCM*] This is the coolest thread I've ever been a member of

[ThoM3 at aol.com]

I don't think I said we NEED RULES. It was not my intent. I was citing the  
fact that people we citing rules as part of the bigger issue... I just want to  
make that as clear as the sky is blue and calling me to ride today.
 
And the scooter thing was more a rhetorical Q I used about riding scooters  
in a bike lane, I never really thought anyone would show up at CM on a scooter  
or that CM should ban them, because as you state, it would be asinine all the 
 way around. Imagine if a car wanted to join us? 
 
That said there are some loose rules we do adhere to in a literal sense 
 
 
In a message dated 9/29/2007 8:52:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
hyamada at MIT.EDU writes:

Not only  that, but "rules" and any system of hierarchy or structure 
organization  are kind of contrary to CM in and of itself.

Some are just common sense  (get out of the way of fire and ambulance, and 
I'm sorry for those of you  that want to "stick it to the man," but police 
w/ sirens on count for this  rule too. They're first responders to any 911 
call, and they're more often  than not trying to help someone, not just 
fuck us over.) whereas others,  like limiting scooters or whatnot, are kind 
of asinine and probably not  going to be well received by CMers as a whole. 
If someone stands up and  says "hey all we're gonna pull out now and btw 
make sure you've read your  weekly rules and regs digest," there'd probably 
be confusion and  resentment to say the least.

just my 2 digs,
--yuki

(that  said yesterday was my first CM in boston and it was awesome, so 
thanks to  everyone who was there and that made it fun)

On Sat, 29 Sep 2007, Lee  Peters wrote:

> Your intentions are pure and many on this list agree  with your intentions. 
 Everyone has to realize that many participants at  the ride itself are not 
on this listserve.  Setting up ground rules would  take communicating your 
intentions to the hundreds of actual riders to change  CM.  You may even find 
resistance to rules among the members of the list,  too.
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> If you try, I am sure you will make some progress and  find allies.
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>  -----  Original Message -----
>  From: ThoM3 at aol.com
>  To:  list at bostoncriticalmass.org
>  Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007  10:16 PM
>  Subject: Re: [*BCM*] This is the coolest thread I've  ever been a member of
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>  While this email does not  make entire sense, it raises some long standing 
concerns with CM, mostly  underscored by the proposed  "loose rules" outlined 
earlier and the  Cantabridgian who saw CM not yield to an ambulance.
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>  In  recent rides (I was not there tonite) I have seen an increase in a) 
running  red lights (not massing and passing) b) a lack of desire to mass up c)  
antagonizing motorists trapped and d) worst of all, a desire to get into it  
with the cops.
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>  While run ins with cops has always been  an issue, people were smart about 
it, dealing with the authorities, not bait  and run. This is just wrong and 
defeats the purpose of  CM.
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>  I love you guys, but we need to bring it back to  square one..
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>  In a message dated 9/28/2007  9:40:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
mholley345 at aol.com writes:
>   Well I just got back from CM and there were a number of things I would  
like to bring up, as we bike to assert our rights on the road
>   it's important to realize that we are pissing some people off, who  cares 
right but when our group breaks down and we become single riders again  there 
is a certain amount of peril involved I personally was assaulted by a  New 
Hampshire  driver several years ago after I separated from the group  and even 
tonite after
>    i was sepated in Camb the cops were  somewhat hostile, anyway i must go 
but please be aware of this and i'm  inteerested in knowing if there are other
>    people who have  experienced the same,
>         On another tact  we should always ride around City Hall and the 
statehouse, that may have been  the most fulfilling moment I have ever had at CM
>    that and  stopping on The bridge to admirew the beauty of a moonrise,  
Thanks to  all who attended and to all those who gawked.    Michael
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