[*BCM*] Olympia

[Anne Wolfe]

That's a pretty weak statement "might be more acceptable".  And in fact, it
might be, just might, but at the same time  you've got to realise that most
people won't take that tack.

The point I'm making is/was that tehre's a lot of complaining on here as to
"why do the police bother us?  Why don't more people join us?  Why don't
people like us?"  In fact, there was a huge debate on this very topic maybe
a month or two ago, and it revealed that many people like myself have issues
with CM for the very reasons that the person who wrote the article, who
conveyed how great they thought it was that there were cyclists harassing,
blocking traffic and spitting on people, and how they should support the guy
who defaced other people's things (who is now worried because he's already
facing trial for prior activities in this vein.  As in, he's prepared to do
the crime, but not do the time.  Hey, call it civil disobedience if you
want, but if you're willing to make the sacrifice you can't quit when the
chips are against you.)  and the person who posted the article seemed (to me
at least) to convey an equal sense of "dude, this was awesome!"

If you thought it was awesome, fine.  But be prepared that there are
consequences to such actions.


2008/9/28 T B <pfadfa at hotmail.com>

>  I can't tell what point you're trying to argue against or make.  But, to
> respond to your question of why the former question might be more acceptable
> than the latter: cars have a demonstrably horrific record of death and
> destruction (whether you take into account the full social and environmental
> cost or just crashes); the same cannot be said of bicycles.  (Although I'm
> not a huge fan of defacing cars.  I think there're far better ways to spend
> one's energy.)
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:13:51 +0100
> From: goannego at gmail.com
> To: list at bostoncriticalmass.org
> Subject: [*BCM*] Olympia
>
>
> And people want to know why CM has a bad reputation?
>
> "blocked all lanes of traffic, chanted things like, "Car bombs, not cars!",
> sang songs, harassed motorists, and spit on pro-war sign holders and
> anti-choice sign holders. One person, towards the end of the ride, was
> arrested for allegedly writing an anti pro-life message on a truck belonging
> to the anti-choicers."
>
> Spitting on people, blocking ALL lanes of traffic, advocating violence (car
> bombs) and harassing people.  Hey, you reap what you sow.  It is difficult
> to see exactly what kind of support the guy who defaced someone's car
> deserves.  If you apply the same kind of "hey, it is a car, it is ok to
> deface it" as "hey, it is a bike/cyclist, it is ok to deface it/them" it
> would get no support on this list, so why is the converse true?
>
> And if you want to know why the police start paying attention to CMs, well,
> this is why.
>
> --
> Anne M. Wolfe, LL.M.
> Mobile: ( 07805) 456901
>
> Because I have seen insane things, all those grand historic paintings.  But
> it is time and I am changing - into something good or bad, well that's your
> guess.  - Dar Williams
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-- 
Anne M. Wolfe, LL.M.
Mobile: ( 07805) 456901

Because I have seen insane things, all those grand historic paintings.  But
it is time and I am changing - into something good or bad, well that's your
guess.  - Dar Williams
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