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motor, or a non-pedal bicycle which has a motor, with a cylinder capacity n=
ot
exceeding fifty cubic centimeters, an automatic transmission, and which is
capable of a maximum speed of no more than thirty miles per hour.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Motorized scooters are intended to be=
those things kids zip
around on, however the law is extremely vague on defining one. You need a
drivers license or permit, can ride in bike lanes except limited-use
recreational paths, and must pass on the right. 20MPH limit. They can't be
operated during night hours. -- MGL 90: "Motorized scooter'', any 2
wheeled tandem or 3 wheeled device, that has handlebars, designed to be sto=
od
or sat upon by the operator, powered by an electric or gas powered motor th=
at
is capable of propelling the device with or without human propulsion. The
definition of "motorized scooter'' shall not include a motorcycle or
motorized bicycle or a 3 wheeled motorized wheelchair. </div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">A "Motorcycle'' is any mot=
or vehicle having
a seat or saddle for the use of the rider and designed to travel on not mor=
e
than three wheels in contact with the ground, including any bicycle with a
motor or driving wheel attached, except a tractor or a motor vehicle design=
ed
for the carrying of golf clubs and not more than four persons, an industria=
l
three-wheel truck, a motor vehicle on which the operator and passenger ride
within an enclosed cab, or a motorized bicycle.</div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Regular bicycles are not defined in t=
he general laws, but
there are laws about them, including that all bicycles must follow the regu=
lar
rules of the road -- with the exception of passing both left and right.</di=
v>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">So, this leaves us with a problem wit=
h the electric bicycle
given before. Technically, it could be a motorcycle? But motorized bicycles
must have real engines? So what is it, and what laws are required of it? Th=
ese
classifications, and what it is have a lot to do with where it is allowed t=
o be
parked, and what ways it can be on. Technically, if a nice greenery path al=
lows
bicycles, it is excluding anything that's not a bicycle -- except bicycle i=
sn't
defined.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Honestly, I think Massachusetts shoul=
d just rewrite all the
classifications to contain more specific information.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Angela Morley</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Founder & CEO, ionFyre Technologi=
es</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Computer Specialist, Salem State=
University Information
Technology Services</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">General Manager, WMWM Salem</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Timo=
thy Gorin <<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=
=3Dtgorin at gmail.com">tgorin at gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">it was just a suggestion, do what you=
will. it just
seems counterproductive if people to unsubscribe because they fin=
d a
somewhat tangential conversation a little annoying.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;"> <=
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Mars=
<<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dmartian=
@mit.edu">martian at mit.edu</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">Compared to other BCM list threads?</=
div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
On 8/10/2010 4:18 PM, Timothy Gorin wrote: </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">seems l=
ike this convo is
between a small group of individuals...maybe you all could start your own e=
mail
thread for the purposes of this discussion? </div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Jym =
Dyer <<a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djym=
@econet.org">jym at econet.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt;">> Th=
e bottom line is that
true mopeds (motorized bicycles with<br>
> pedals) blur the lines of legality, and fall into the same<br>
> kind of issues as motor scooters.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv1151470528MsoNormal">=3Dv=3D The bottom line is that this =
is increasingly off-topic<br>
for a Critical Mass list, given that Critical Mass is, at<br>
bare minimum, about bicycles on streets.<br>
<span style=3D"color:rgb(136, 136, 136);"> <_Jym_></span>=
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